Qwen3.8 Flash Next QSA-fast MTP3 fix-forward promotion¶
Date: 2026-08-26
Scope: dual RTX PRO 6000 Max-Q, WSL2, exclusive TP=2, text Primary
Decision: current at 262,144 tokens and concurrency one; multimodal remains unpromoted
Outcome¶
The human-authorized fix-forward promotion now uses
RadixArk/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-NVFP4@7b719225242aacd3dbd3f9407468c2ee9a9d2594
through the digest-pinned SGLang image
sha256:59f06adce6f91401adf443bd168d45fdb2044d77671fd591c7c57a29d851cbae,
engine revision d91c3682b0b429e4c70df63cd57f819588ce29b0. The current recipe is
qwen38-flash-next-radixark-nvfp4-sglang-sm120-qsa-fast-tp2-262k-mtp3-recipe.toml.
This supersedes the same-day portable-QSA reference. It keeps the 262,144-token server window, 253,952-token client prompt contract, 8,192-token output reserve, concurrency one, BF16 KV path, no PLE CPU offload, and thinking-disabled text contract. It does not promote image, OCR, or video routes.
Exact SM120 translation¶
The pinned runtime predated the upstream SM120 Qwen sparse-attention fix. The
managed recipe applies only the QSA gate from SGLang PR #36556 at commit
dac5523d1e5d2f4297fec40ef02fc76fb0f662d1. Startup verifies the exact source
hash c959835d..., the exact patched result a6b003ed..., and the required
FlashInfer trtllm_batch_decode_with_kv_cache import before launching. It also
retains the already-qualified WSL2 NCCL fallback, Triton attention/prefill,
FlashInfer linear-attention decode, BF16 recurrent state, batch-one graph cap,
and no FP8 KV. These are exact-revision compatibility selections, not generic
SGLang advice.
The matched no-speculation control and MTP3 candidate are identical except for
SGLang NEXTN steps/top-k/draft tokens 3/1/4, matching the upstream low-latency
cookbook.
Local qualification¶
| Profile | 4K TTFT / E2E | 4K decode | 128K TTFT | 128K prefill | 128K decode | Full-reserve decode |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Prior portable QSA, no spec | 0.215 / 2.627 s | 12.801 tok/s | 11.961 s at 125,442 | 10,488 tok/s | 12.544 tok/s | not repeated |
| QSA-fast, no spec | 0.14 / 0.69 s | 66.6 tok/s | 12.18 s | 10,057 tok/s | 69.4 tok/s | 66.9 tok/s |
| QSA-fast, MTP3 | 0.15 / 0.36 s | 154.9 tok/s | 12.67 s | 9,664 tok/s | 134.1 tok/s | 102.0 tok/s |
MTP3 improved decode by 2.33x at 4K and 1.93x at 128K versus the otherwise matched no-speculation control. Against the former portable-QSA lane, the decode gains were 12.1x and 10.7x. The full-reserve request measured 253,703 actual prompt tokens with an 8,192-token output request inside the native 262,144-token window.
Both QSA-fast arms passed the direct functional suite, 128K retrieval, the full-reserve request, tools 20/20, thinking-disabled intelligence 6/6, session continuation 3/3, and repeated tools 3/3. No bounded quality regression was observed in the MTP3 arm. This is bounded deterministic evidence, not a broad intelligence claim.
Routed and real-client closure¶
The router transition matched the exact MTP3 served identity and passed readiness plus admission checks. A fresh client run then synchronized the installed catalog and exercised the normal binaries:
- Hermes returned the fresh marker through
llm.primarywith no raw tool-call markup. - Pi selected provider
anvil, modelllm.primary, returned the fresh marker, and retained the catalog's 262,144-token context. - OpenClaw selected provider
anvil, modelllm.primary, reportedcontextTokens=262144, returned the fresh marker, and did not fall back.
These checks close the 262K Hermes/Pi/OpenClaw acceptance gate. They do not claim multimodal acceptance.
Rejected vLLM translation¶
The exact Inferact revision 103a7608316173ca6edd49929544244de7ffda70 was
cached and tested through three managed vLLM recipes. Default NCCL failed before
weight load; the WSL2 NCCL controls exposed the V2 runner's UVA failure; and the
V1 workaround loaded about 85.76 GiB per card before TorchInductor autotuning
requested another 47.69 GiB and OOMed before KV allocation. The three exact
recipes are empirically disqualified. This is not a universal claim that the
checkpoint or 262K is impossible. See the retained
attempt artifacts.
Evidence and boundaries¶
The sanitized machine-readable summary is
summary.json.
The source model is pinned in the
RadixArk revision tree,
the SM120 QSA change is pinned in
SGLang PR #36556, and the
MTP preset comes from the
SGLang cookbook PR #36496.
All external recipes remained priors until reproduced locally.
The same-day single-PRO community recipe reports a vLLM TP=1/PLE-CPU-offload lane near 120 tok/s at 256K, with a large host PLE working set. It remains an efficiency-oriented recipe lead, not a local result and not a faster result than the qualified TP=2 lane. It was not staged because this campaign already met the requested speed/quality/context gates and native-offload absent-container cleanup remains an open product prerequisite. A dual-DGX-Spark recipe was also hardware-mismatched and did not alter the local decision.
The current contract is text-only, thinking-disabled, 262,144 tokens, concurrency one, and a single exclusive TP=2 owner. A future engine, patch, context, KV dtype, concurrency, offload, speculation preset, or multimodal route requires its own qualification.